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A look inside Utah tech

The 4th Node is a podcast that explores the history of technology and business in Utah by discussing some of the most well-known (and most unknown) events and businesses in the state’s history. While many have heard bits and pieces about these topics, many don’t know the stories that shaped the state and business community into what it is today. Starting with ARPA and the University of Utah becoming the 4th node of the internet to early powerhouses like WordPerfect and Novell to today’s modern SaaS companies.


The 4th Node Podcast brings historic topics and prominent figures in business and technology together to tell these stories.

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